Comments on: Do we need the second Penang Bridge? http://cj.my/nowuseeit/2009/03/13/do-we-need-the-second-penang-bridge/ ... on news, views, issues (Citizen Journalism Blog) Tue, 04 May 2010 15:56:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: lucialai http://cj.my/nowuseeit/2009/03/13/do-we-need-the-second-penang-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-12 lucialai Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:02:13 +0000 http://cj.my/nowuseeit/?p=22#comment-12 lone precisely why the reason soon enough (well not that soon but say 5 years down the road) the second penang bridge will be congested - tourism! lots of people will come and be using it. PR had set up some transport council body to look into the transport woes in penang. hopefully this body will get going and get working. lone
precisely why the reason soon enough (well not that soon but say 5 years down the road) the second penang bridge will be congested – tourism! lots of people will come and be using it.
PR had set up some transport council body to look into the transport woes in penang. hopefully this body will get going and get working.

]]> By: Lone http://cj.my/nowuseeit/2009/03/13/do-we-need-the-second-penang-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Lone Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:10:23 +0000 http://cj.my/nowuseeit/?p=22#comment-11 Hi again, Penang's eonomy depends a lot on tourism, local as well as foreign. The 2nd bridge will boost tourism too. As for internal island public transport, the Pakatan and LGE must deal effectively with it. It is what they have been telling one and all that they will be doing. So get on with it, whether it is gonna be trams, monorail or more Rapid buses : ). Make sure you and your activists continue the pressure. Hi again,
Penang’s eonomy depends a lot on tourism, local as well as foreign. The 2nd bridge will boost tourism too. As for internal island public transport, the Pakatan and LGE must deal effectively with it. It is what they have been telling one and all that they will be doing. So get on with it, whether it is gonna be trams, monorail or more Rapid buses : ). Make sure you and your activists continue the pressure.

]]> By: lucialai http://cj.my/nowuseeit/2009/03/13/do-we-need-the-second-penang-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-10 lucialai Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:56:21 +0000 http://cj.my/nowuseeit/?p=22#comment-10 oh sorry forgot to mention... lone, i am still blogging at my old blog, 'mental jog'. this is new but i still maintain mental jog and will blog there more. oh sorry forgot to mention…
lone, i am still blogging at my old blog, ‘mental jog’. this is new but i still maintain mental jog and will blog there more.

]]> By: lucialai http://cj.my/nowuseeit/2009/03/13/do-we-need-the-second-penang-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-9 lucialai Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:51:19 +0000 http://cj.my/nowuseeit/?p=22#comment-9 hi lone glad to still see you around. you have a point there but the thing is yes in the beginning it wil solve the traffic congestion but after some time, it'll be back to square one. one don't solve traffic congestion by adding more roads (well the penang bridge is a 'road'). the light rail link can use the present bridge - more than enough. your suggestion of the buses ferrying commuters in and out of the island using the 2 bridges - see, already adding in traffic. roads are being built - so more traffic can use it, meaning traffic will increase. people thinking oh got more roads (links) we can travel in vehicles already using those roads - adding to the congestion. i still hold the point that the best way to solve traffic congestion is to reduce the number of vehicles on the road. and how to do that? plan for a very good public transport. hi lone
glad to still see you around. you have a point there but the thing is yes in the beginning it wil solve the traffic congestion but after some time, it’ll be back to square one. one don’t solve traffic congestion by adding more roads (well the penang bridge is a ‘road’). the light rail link can use the present bridge – more than enough. your suggestion of the buses ferrying commuters in and out of the island using the 2 bridges – see, already adding in traffic. roads are being built – so more traffic can use it, meaning traffic will increase. people thinking oh got more roads (links) we can travel in vehicles already using those roads – adding to the congestion.

i still hold the point that the best way to solve traffic congestion is to reduce the number of vehicles on the road. and how to do that? plan for a very good public transport.

]]> By: Lone http://cj.my/nowuseeit/2009/03/13/do-we-need-the-second-penang-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-8 Lone Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:38:22 +0000 http://cj.my/nowuseeit/?p=22#comment-8 Hi Lucia, juz discovered your new blog. Am a frequent visitor to Penang. Am in favour of the 2nd bridge. It will be an asset to Penang. The 2nd bridge will cater to those going to the Bayan Lepas area and the south-west portion of Penang. The 1st bridge will then be less congested. Those going to the north-eastern parts should be encouraged to use the feris. More feris should be put into service. The 1st bridge cannot handle the present volume of traffic. A light rail link between the mainland and Penang island still will need a bridge to carry it. With the present internal road links and public transport, it would not be feasible. Buses bringing commuters in and out of Penang island using the 2 bridges would be better alternatives. Hi Lucia, juz discovered your new blog.
Am a frequent visitor to Penang.
Am in favour of the 2nd bridge. It will be an asset to Penang.
The 2nd bridge will cater to those going to the Bayan Lepas area and the south-west portion of Penang. The 1st bridge will then be less congested. Those going to the north-eastern parts should be encouraged to use the feris. More feris should be put into service. The 1st bridge cannot handle the present volume of traffic.
A light rail link between the mainland and Penang island still will need a bridge to carry it. With the present internal road links and public transport, it would not be feasible. Buses bringing commuters in and out of Penang island using the 2 bridges would be better alternatives.

]]> By: lucialai http://cj.my/nowuseeit/2009/03/13/do-we-need-the-second-penang-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-7 lucialai Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:45:14 +0000 http://cj.my/nowuseeit/?p=22#comment-7 jackie yeah now it is more than one contractor but in the beginning it was only UEM, i guess. anyway, thanks for the pointer - i stand corrected... should have mention it if i knew of it. you said the second bridge is needed for better connectivity between the island and the mainland... but there are other options for the connectivity, mind you. e.g. as i mentioned improving ferry service, light rail link. shag yes if all the industrial areas in the island are to move to the mainland, traffic between these 2 industrial ares will be reduced but still the bridge will be use by many who are not commuting between the industrial areas. they still have a reason they want the second bridge! er... jackie, i don't think the cost will be cheaper if the penang airport moves. less people using the airport won't really have a great effect on the travel between island and mainland on the bridge. noor i'm a penangite. i know the terrible traffic congestion on every friday. started as early as 3.00pm. each time i return home from work in georgetown to bayan baru, on the coastal highway which leads to the road leading to the penang bridge, i see always traffic being so congested. well... this will be the same scene we see at the second penang bridge a few years after it had been opened! jackie
yeah now it is more than one contractor but in the beginning it was only UEM, i guess. anyway, thanks for the pointer – i stand corrected… should have mention it if i knew of it.
you said the second bridge is needed for better connectivity between the island and the mainland… but there are other options for the connectivity, mind you. e.g. as i mentioned improving ferry service, light rail link.

shag
yes if all the industrial areas in the island are to move to the mainland, traffic between these 2 industrial ares will be reduced but still the bridge will be use by many who are not commuting between the industrial areas. they still have a reason they want the second bridge!

er… jackie, i don’t think the cost will be cheaper if the penang airport moves. less people using the airport won’t really have a great effect on the travel between island and mainland on the bridge.

noor
i’m a penangite. i know the terrible traffic congestion on every friday. started as early as 3.00pm. each time i return home from work in georgetown to bayan baru, on the coastal highway which leads to the road leading to the penang bridge, i see always traffic being so congested. well… this will be the same scene we see at the second penang bridge a few years after it had been opened!

]]> By: noor hidayat http://cj.my/nowuseeit/2009/03/13/do-we-need-the-second-penang-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-6 noor hidayat Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:51:53 +0000 http://cj.my/nowuseeit/?p=22#comment-6 As a penangite, I'd say, we need the damm second bridge. It's long overdue! Those nay-sayers (I find them usually not from PG) can't stop thinking nonsense. With or without the 2nd bridge, traffic is still going to come in, and at that time, the exisitng bridge would be superbly crammed up. As for commuting by Ferry, do you know how long it takes to cross the water? Even with speedier ferry, it's still downright impossible to match the speed of driving on the bridge. The 2nd bridge also connects to one of the busiest industry area, that is almost right next to it. With the 2nd bridge, industry workers around that area can use the 2nd bridge while town folks can use the existing bridge. Life would be so much easier... If only those nay-sayers would use the bridge on every Friday then you'll know that we PGites need the 2nd bridge. As a penangite, I’d say, we need the damm second bridge. It’s long overdue! Those nay-sayers (I find them usually not from PG) can’t stop thinking nonsense. With or without the 2nd bridge, traffic is still going to come in, and at that time, the exisitng bridge would be superbly crammed up.

As for commuting by Ferry, do you know how long it takes to cross the water? Even with speedier ferry, it’s still downright impossible to match the speed of driving on the bridge. The 2nd bridge also connects to one of the busiest industry area, that is almost right next to it. With the 2nd bridge, industry workers around that area can use the 2nd bridge while town folks can use the existing bridge. Life would be so much easier…

If only those nay-sayers would use the bridge on every Friday then you’ll know that we PGites need the 2nd bridge.

]]> By: Jackie http://cj.my/nowuseeit/2009/03/13/do-we-need-the-second-penang-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Jackie Fri, 13 Mar 2009 05:18:29 +0000 http://cj.my/nowuseeit/?p=22#comment-5 If all industrial areas in Bayan Lepas transfer to mainland, then I believe Penang International Airport may need to relocate also, since the airport play an important role to export those goods to the world. So, do you think after consider these factor, will the cost is going cheaper than 4.3bil? As even building a LCCT at Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) is estimated cost of RM2 bil already. If all industrial areas in Bayan Lepas transfer to mainland, then I believe Penang International Airport may need to relocate also, since the airport play an important role to export those goods to the world. So, do you think after consider these factor, will the cost is going cheaper than 4.3bil? As even building a LCCT at Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) is estimated cost of RM2 bil already.

]]> By: shag http://cj.my/nowuseeit/2009/03/13/do-we-need-the-second-penang-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-4 shag Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:13:33 +0000 http://cj.my/nowuseeit/?p=22#comment-4 At the cost of 4.3 bill, it could be cheaper to relocate all the industrial areas in Bayan Lepas to the mainland nearer to Bkt Minyak & reduce traffic between the 2 industrial areas. At the cost of 4.3 bill, it could be cheaper to relocate all the industrial areas in Bayan Lepas to the mainland nearer to Bkt Minyak & reduce traffic between the 2 industrial areas.

]]> By: Jackie http://cj.my/nowuseeit/2009/03/13/do-we-need-the-second-penang-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-3 Jackie Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:12:56 +0000 http://cj.my/nowuseeit/?p=22#comment-3 "The government awarded the concessionaire to build, manage, operate and maintain the second bridge to an UMNO-owned company, UEM Sdn Bhd, without tender." This is no true. UEM now is just one of a contractor to build the Penang second bridge only. The bridge is currently own by Jambatan Kedua Sdn Bhd (JKSB), which is a company setup by federal government. Penang Bridge 2: Dropdead deadline for UEM http://www.jeffooi.com/2008/09/penang_bridge_2_dropdead_deadl.php Second Penang Bridge cost to remain at RM4.3b http://www.theedgedaily.com/political-news/1206-yong-min-wei.html You may right, building new roads and bridges will not solve traffic congestion problems in the long run. However, the second bridge is required for better connectivity between island and mainland, especially the industry near bayan lepas and bukit minyak ovr thr. “The government awarded the concessionaire to build, manage, operate and maintain the second bridge to an UMNO-owned company, UEM Sdn Bhd, without tender.”

This is no true. UEM now is just one of a contractor to build the Penang second bridge only.

The bridge is currently own by Jambatan Kedua Sdn Bhd (JKSB), which is a company setup by federal government.

Penang Bridge 2: Dropdead deadline for UEM
http://www.jeffooi.com/2008/09/penang_bridge_2_dropdead_deadl.php

Second Penang Bridge cost to remain at RM4.3b
http://www.theedgedaily.com/political-news/1206-yong-min-wei.html

You may right, building new roads and bridges will not solve traffic congestion problems in the long run.
However, the second bridge is required for better connectivity between island and mainland, especially the industry near bayan lepas and bukit minyak ovr thr.

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